Moed Katan 44

Chapter 44

א ממעט על אביו ועל אמו ממעט
1 he does not minimizes it'; but for his father or mother he should minimize [his business].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., even after the burial, during the thirty days of mourning. Han. and Hay Gaon, quoted Otz. Hag. no. 199.');"><sup>1</sup></span> For all [other] dead, if he desires, he bares [his shoulder] and if he does not desire he does not bare it; for his father or mother he must bare [his shoulder].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And also bares his heart (chest) . Sem. IX.');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ב על כל המתים כולן רצה חולץ רצה אינו חולץ על אביו ועל אמו חולץ
2 It happened once with a certain 'great man of the generation' whose father had died, that he desired to bare [his shoulder],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For a Hakam (doyen) , the (shoulder and) right hand are bared; for the president of the Beth din, the (shoulder and) left hand are bared; for the Nasi both (shoulders and) hands are bared. It happened, when R. Eliezer died, that R. Akiba bared 'both his hands' (arms) and beat his breast till it was bleeding and he said: my father, my father, the chariots of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. (II Kings, II, 12) . Sem. IX. Cf. infra 22b.');"><sup>3</sup></span> and [another] 'great man of the generation' that was with him desired to bare his too, and on that account he [the mourner] refrained and did not bare [his shoulder].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Here the series of citations from Sem. IX is interrupted by an observation of historical interest.');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ג ומעשה בגדול הדור אחד שמת אביו וביקש לחלוץ וביקש גדול הדור אחר שעמו לחלוץ ונמנע ולא חלץ
3 Said Abaye, The 'great man of the generation' referred to was Rabbi, and the [other] 'great man of the generation' that was with him was R'Jacob B'Aha [the elder]. Some say that 'the great man of the generation' was R'Jacob B'Alia and the [other] great man of the generation' that was with him was Rabbi.
ד אמר אביי גדול הדור רבי גדול הדור שעמו ר' יעקב בר אחא ואיכא דאמרי גדול הדור ר' יעקב בר אחא גדול הדור שעמו רבי
4 Now it seems correct if Rabbi was the 'great man of the generation' that was with him [with the mourner], we understand why [R'Jacob B'Aha]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' D.S. and many other texts.');"><sup>5</sup></span> refrained and did not bare [his shoulder and heart];<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Out of deference to Rabbi who was the Nasi, and therefore for him it was infra dignitatem. This was no disrespect to R. Jacob's father, as this is provided for in the rules: 'And if they (one's father or mother) seem not important (enough) for (the baring) , he (the son) does lot bare himself even for his father or mother'. Sem. IX. It should be noted that R. Jacob's father was not a qualified Rabbi, and that if 'Rabbi' Judah, the Nasi did out of deference to R. Jacob b. Aha bare himself, it would cause adverse comment among those present at the funeral. On R. Jacob b. Aha's status, v. Shab. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ה בשלמא למ"ד גדול הדור שעמו רבי היינו דנמנע ולא חלץ
5 but according to the [other] report that Rabbi [was the mourner] and that R'Jacob B'Aha was the 'great man of the generation' that was with him, why did not he [Rabbi] bare [his shoulder and both hands] as Rabban Simeon B'Gamaliel [Rabbi's father] was the Nasi, and everybody should by rights have bared [their shoulders]!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' V. p. 140, n. 8.');"><sup>7</sup></span> - This is difficult [to explain].'
ו אלא למ"ד רבי יעקב בר אחא אמאי נמנע ולא חלץ רשב"ג נשיא הוה וכולי עלמא מיחייבי למיחלץ קשיא
6 For<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The quotation is resumed. sg');"><sup>8</sup></span> all dead one has his hair trimmed after thirty days; for one's father or mother [one lets his hair grow long]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So D.N. and other texts. V. Tosaf. s.v. .');"><sup>9</sup></span>
ז על כל המתים כולן מסתפר לאחר ל' יום על אביו ועל אמו עד שיגערו בו חבריו על כל המתים כולן נכנס לבית השמחה לאחר ל' יום על אביו ועל אמו לאחר י"ב חדש
7 until his companions rebuke him. For all dead one enters a house of rejoicing after thirty days; for his father and mother [not] till after twelve months'.
ח אמר רבה בר בר חנה ולשמחת מריעות מיתיבי ולשמחה ולמריעות ל' יום קשיא
8 Rabbah B'Bar Hanah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. Rabbah b. R. Huna.');"><sup>10</sup></span> said:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [In commenting on the rule that one may enter a house of rejoicing after thirty days]. ,ughrn ,jna');"><sup>11</sup></span>
ט אמימר מתני הכי אמר רבה בר בר חנה ולשמחת מריעות מותר ליכנס לאלתר והא תניא לשמחה שלשים ולמריעות שלשים
9 'And [one may go] to a joyous entertainment of comrades'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' . For the expression, cf. Judg. XIV, 10ff, where it is connected with a betrothal or marriage celebration. It is this taken by SBH p. 110. Generally, however, it is taken to denote an ordinary social repast shared with one's intimate friends. The import of Rabbah's observation is rather ambiguous and, accordingly, taken variously: - (a) A comrade's entertainment may not be attended until before the thirty days are over, as there is conviviality, eating and drinking; much less may one go to a joyous celebration, such as a betrothal, or marriage ceremony with music and singing. (b) That a comrade's entertainment which provides enjoyment for one's own boon companions should not be entered upon before thirty days; but at a religious ceremonious celebration, a marriage ceremony, a circumcision etc. one may attend sooner, especially if one does not join in the feasting. V. Tosaf., Asheri par. 41, Nahmanides (Torath ha-Adam) and Ritba.');"><sup>12</sup></span> An objection was raised: 'And [one may not go to a joyous [feast] as well as to [an entertainment of] rejoicing and to comrades [for] thirty days'!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' [This proves that the two phrases are not identical].');"><sup>13</sup></span>
י ל"ק הא באריסותא הא בפורענותא
10 - This [divergence] presents difficulty. Amemar taught [his comments] on that [same] Baraitha thus: Said Rabbah B'Bar Hanali, 'But [to go] to a joyous entertainment of comrades is allowed forthwith'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' At the termination of the seven days. t,uhart t,uahrt tar');"><sup>14</sup></span>
יא על כל המתים כולן קורע טפח על אביו ועל אמו עד שיגלה את לבו א"ר אבהו מאי קרא (שמואל ב א, יא) ויחזק דוד בבגדיו ויקרעם ואין אחיזה פחות מטפח
11 But then [in another version] it is taught: '[One may go] to a joyous [feast] after thirty [days] and to an entertainment of comrades [after] thirty days'? - This [discrepancy] is not difficult [to explain]; the latter [version] refers to a first<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' There are various readings: D.S. reads - ; SBH: - from , 'to begin with'. Cf Ber. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> [invitation to an] entertainment [of comrades], while the former [version] refers to a return entertainment<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' I.e., when it is his turn to entertain or to attend and he cannot defer it or absent himself and therefore may hold his entertainment forthwith. So Han.');"><sup>16</sup></span>
יב על כל המתים כולן אפילו לבוש עשרה חלוקין אינו קורע אלא עליון על אביו ועל אמו קורע את כולן ואפיקרסותו אינה מעכבת
12 [of comrades].' For all<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The quotation is resumed. V. supra p. 141, n. 8.');"><sup>17</sup></span>
יג אחד האיש ואחד אשה ר"ש בן אלעזר אומר האשה קורעת את התחתון ומחזירתו לאחוריה וחוזרת וקורעת את העליון
13 [other] dead one makes a rent [in his tunic] of a handbreadth [in depth]; for one's father or mother [he rends his clothes] till he bares his heart [chest].' Said R'Abbahu, What text is there [which teache this]?
יד על כל המתים כולן רצה מבדיל קמי שפה שלו רצה אינו מבדיל על אביו ועל אמו מבדיל
14 Then David took hold on his clothes and rent them,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' II Sam. I, 11.');"><sup>18</sup></span> and there is no taking hold [of anything] by less than a hand's breadth.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. Suk. 32fr,and Nid. 26a.');"><sup>19</sup></span>
טו רבי יהודה אומר כל קריעה שאינו מבדיל קמי שפה שלו אינו אלא קרע של תיפלות אמר רבי אבהו מ"ט דר' יהודה דכתיב (מלכים ב ב, יב) ויחזק בבגדיו ויקרעם לשנים קרעים ממשמע שנאמר ויקרעם איני יודע שהן לשנים אלא שנראין קרועים כשנים
15 'For all [other] dead one rends only the uppermost [garment] even though he be wearing [then] ten; but for one's father or mother one rends them all'. And [the rending of] one's undershirt is not indispensable, be it in man or woman; R'Simeon B'Eleazar says.'
טז על כל המתים כולן שולל לאחר שבעה ומאחה לאחר שלשים על אביו ועל אמו שולל לאחר ל' ואינו מאחה לעולם והאשה שוללתו לאלתר מפני כבודה
16 A woman rends her undermost garment and turns it [front to] back and then again rends her uppermost garment,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Thus avoiding exposure of her chest.');"><sup>20</sup></span> For all [other] dead, if one desire he divides the [upper] selvage-border of his [garment],<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' About the neck and shoulders.');"><sup>21</sup></span>
יז כי אתא רבין א"ר יוחנן על כל המתים רצה קורע ביד רצה קורע בכלי על אביו ועל אמו ביד
17 and if he does not desire he does not divide it; for his father or mother he must divide, R'Judah says, Any rending [of a garment] that divides not the selvage-border thereof is mere make-believe. Said R'Abbahu: What is the reason for R'Judah's [statement]? - The text: [And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof! And he saw him no more] and he took hold of his own clothes and rent them in two pieces.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' II Kings, 11, 12.');"><sup>22</sup></span>
יח וא"ר חייא בר אבא א"ר יוחנן על כל המתים כולן מבפנים על אביו ועל אמו קורע מבחוץ אמר רב חסדא וכן לנשיא
18 Once it says 'and he rent them' do I not know that he rent them in two? But [the addition of 'in two'<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'And he rent them in two rent pieces'.');"><sup>23</sup></span>
יט מיתיבי לא הושוו לאביו ולאמו אלא לאיחוי בלבד
19 implies] that [at the rent] the garments appeared as if torn into two [separate] pieces.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So infra ');"><sup>24</sup></span> 'For all [other] dead, one tacks<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Roughly, large basting stitches.');"><sup>25</sup></span>
כ מאי לאו אפילו לנשיא לא לבר מנשיא
20 the rent together after seven [days] and [completely] reunites [the edges] after thirty [days]; for one's father or mother one tacks it together after thirty [days], but never reunites [t edges]; a woman tacks it together forthwith, out of the respect due to her. When R'Abin came [from Palestine] he said as citing R'Johanan: 'For all [other] dead, if one desires, he rends [his garment] with the hand, or if he desires he rends by an instrument; for one's father or mother one rends with the hand'.
כא נשיאה שכיב א"ל רב חסדא (לרב חנן בר רבא) כפי אסיתא וקום עלה ואחוי קריעה לעלמא
21 And R'Hiyya B'Abba said, as citing R'Johanan: 'For all [other] dead [one rends] inside;<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Privately, aside, turned away from the bystanders (Rashi) ; or, rending an interior garment (Giat) . V. Ritba.');"><sup>26</sup></span> for one's father or mother one rends outside'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Coram populo, demonstratively displaying his grief before all present.');"><sup>27</sup></span>
כב על חכם חולץ מימין על אב ב"ד משמאל על נשיא מכאן ומכאן
22 R'Hisda observed: And the same rule obtains<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' As in the case of a parent, to rend publicly.');"><sup>28</sup></span> on the [death of a] Nasi.
כג ת"ר חכם שמת בית מדרשו בטל אב ב"ד שמת כל בתי מדרשות שבעירו בטילין ונכנסין לביהכ"נ ומשנין את מקומן היושבין בצפון יושבין בדרום היושבין בדרום יושבין בצפון נשיא שמת בתי מדרשות כולן בטילין ובני הכנסת נכנסין לבית הכנסת
23 An objection was raised: '[Those other dignitaries]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' One's master, the Nasi, and the president of the Beth din. Cf. infra ');"><sup>29</sup></span> were not deemed equal to one's father or mother save in regard to re-uniting [the edges of the rent] alone'. Does not this [inequality] hold also for the Nasi?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In regard to rending the garment publicly.');"><sup>30</sup></span> - No, the Nasi alone [is an exception].<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In regard to rending the garment publicly.');"><sup>30</sup></span> The Nesi'ah<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The descendant-successors of R. Judah Ha-nasi were denominated Nesi'ah (Aramaic form of ha-Nasi) .');"><sup>31</sup></span> died. Said R'Hisda to R'Hanan B'Raba:<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Var. lec. R. Nahman b. Ammi.');"><sup>32</sup></span> Turn the mortar<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The mortar was a large crib or trough (for pounding olives for the press or soaking barley for brewing beer) cf. A.Z. ');"><sup>33</sup></span> , upside down, stand on it and show the rending [of garmentsj to all the people! For a Hakam [sage]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The official title of the consultative expert of a constituted Beth din, next in rank to the Ab Beth din, Vice President of the Court and the Nasi. V. Hor., Sonc. ed. p. 101, nn. 6 and 8.');"><sup>34</sup></span> one bares [the hand and shoulder] on the right; for the Ab Beth din, on the left, and for a Nasi on both sides'. Our Rabbis taught: When a Hakam dies, his Beth Hamidrash is in vacation; when the Ab Beth din dies all the Colleges in his city are in vacation and [the people of the synagogue]<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' So Han; Asheri etc. read: and the people of his town.');"><sup>35</sup></span> enter the synagogue[s] and change their [usual] places: those that [usually] sit in the north sit in the south and those that [usually] sit the south sit in the north. When a Nasi dies, all the Colleges are in vacation<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Cf. Keth. 103a-b.');"><sup>36</sup></span> and the people of the synagogue enter the synagogue<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' On the Sabbath day.');"><sup>37</sup></span>